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Postby knapp » Mon May 19, 2008 2:33 pm

What are the prices you place on your Giclees?

Mine are on the highest quality Arches archival paper and are rendered and printed by very well known and reputable firms. I have them available for $400, and was curious how this rates with other art of similar quality?
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Postby johnwalkeasy » Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:45 pm

Knapp, What are Giclees?
Perfection is what drives an artist.
The inability to achieve perfection is what creates a work of art.
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Postby bergina » Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:34 pm

Knapp,
I have reproduced 12 of my original paintings in the Real Iris Giclee format, about $800.00 to $1000.00 each initial order. Some were bombs, other very successful. I think I have run the course of the giclee print direction.
The hard question, what to sell them for? Quite simple ( but really not) , it all depends how many you want lying under your bed for the next 10 years, ha, but not funny.
No really, do you have a ready market and a lot of potential buyers? This “market and buyer” deal is all hinged on a few important facts.
Is your work outstanding in your chosen artistic direction and style? If I Google you name, will I see 10 / 20 honest hits about your accomplishments? . Before I will ever lay out another $800.00 for prints, my work better be spell bounding ( hasn't happend yet but it will) . Do you have access to a large group of people who recognize and admire your work and like you personally? Do they understand why the Iris Giclee is the most accurate reproduction of an original and flock to buy an early edition number? Actually they probably won’t care as long as it looks great on their wall.
Few personal notes base on my school of hard knocks.
Make sure what you are reproducing is never based on “ Wow, I think I did a great painting”, have to reproduce it, it will sell, no problem. Wrong,
Did you paint something marketable , something the general public will recognize, probably been painted a thousand times but your interpretation is just so good.

I have never seen your work so you could be unbelievable, have the right topic and rock the economic art world.
Did your supplier give you any general direction? Have you managed to establish a personal rapport with them? I always try to avoid selling just a signed numbered print because little profit even at doubled my print costs. I have sold over 200 framed prints limited edition and maybe 75 matted prints.


My advice is two fold: 1. invest a few bucks into framing gear , take a course on how to do it right and do it yourself. If you are not really handy or have no time or space forgets it.
2. Find your own personal framer who can frame your prints at 1/3 price , they will great and you will make a nice profit.
3. Sell your prints for at least 2.5 % - 4% more than your total cost. (Optical eye glass frame shops sell custom frames for over 1000% over cost. All sporting gear is at least 500- 1000% higher.
Here is my most important advice;
Forget about the Giclee prints and focus all your efforts on selling your originals.
Hope this was of some help,
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Hi Al-Knapp

Postby BAReam » Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:21 am

Knapp//Al

Read your posts and I have a question. Al; what the heck is an "iris" giclee versus any others. I am considering having giclee prints marketed through Image Kind and Singular {Joe} seems to think highly of them.

IK produce their giclees on a as per order basis so you don't have a ton of money tied up in a print run, and they set up the web gallery, do the framing/ matting, billing and shipping; and the artist establishes the mark-up on the finished product. Also, the artist earns a small percentage of matting/framing costs etc.,etc. . Seems to me to be a win-win situation if all is as they advertise.

Back to my question: is an "iris" giclee a superior product? I will Google it shortly to get information.

Knapp//Al...all the best... BAReam
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Postby BAReam » Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:16 pm

I did a Google on "Iris Giclee" last night. Worked out that the "iris" is the printer designation or type and not a specific company's copy righted process as it seemed. So I guess the majority of my questions have been answered... however, if anyone has feedback regarding Image Kind {pos. or neg.} would certainly appreciate it.

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Postby bergina » Sat Jun 14, 2008 4:21 pm

Bruce,
From my understanding a real Iris Giclee as opposed to a Giclee makes reference to the specific machine and maybe inks used to create the final product. I believe the ink jets (4) fire out millions of dots per square inch of color matching, potentially creating an almost perfect reproduction of an original. I have never seen the perfect reproduction but most of mine were close in color but almost absolute in detail. It all depends on the skill of person producing your prints, how many demos they will produce (usually only 3) for you to finally accept and how close you want the prints to resemble the original. I have a very good report with the company I deal with and they hate to see me coming because I am so particular. They have reproduced over 20 demos for some paintings before I accepted the work. The particular machine that reproduced the real Iris Gicle is worth close to half a million, not your regular staples photocopier and that was back 15 years ago. From what I understand, even now, with the advance in technology, nothing still comes close to the accuracy of these old Iris giclee printers.
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